• Subscribe
  • Log In
  • Home
  • Daily Diary
  • Asset Class
    • U.S. Equity
    • Fixed Income
    • Global Equity
    • Commodities
    • Currencies
  • Sector
    • Basic Materials
    • Consumer Discretionary
    • Consumer Staples
    • Energy
    • Financial Services
    • Healthcare
    • Industrials
    • Real Estate
    • Technology
    • Telecom Services
    • Transportation
    • Utilities
  • Latest
    • Articles
    • Video
    • Columnist Conversations
    • Best Ideas
    • Stock of the Day
  • Street Notes
  • Authors
    • Bruce Kamich
    • Doug Kass
    • Jim "Rev Shark" DePorre
    • Helene Meisler
    • Jonathan Heller
    • - See All -
  • Options
  • RMPIA
  • Switch Product
    • Action Alerts PLUS
    • Quant Ratings
    • Real Money
    • Real Money Pro
    • Retirement
    • Stocks Under $10
    • TheStreet
    • Top Stocks
    • Trifecta Stocks
  1. Home
  2. / Investing
  3. / Stocks

I'm 100% Annoyed By the Supposed 20% Bear Market Rule

Let me give you my pet peeve -- OK, two of them, but who's counting? -- about bear markets and the low.
By HELENE MEISLER
May 20, 2022 | 06:00 AM EDT

I have a pet peeve. OK, I have several, but today I want to discuss just one of them. It is this nonsense that unless or until we get to the S&P down 20% the folks in the media will not declare this a bear market.

I have no formal definition of a bear market. I have a concept and that concept is that when the majority of stocks are in downtrends and they have been for nearly 16 months, it's a bear market. I have stated before I think the majority of stocks have been in a downtrend since the first quarter of 2021 and therefore we have been in a bear market since then.

I do not know where this obsession of needing to wait for down 20% came from, but it's annoying. Because it's not as though anything magical happens at down 20%. I mean who is sitting around waiting, saying, OK, I won't sell until we get to a bear market? My gosh if you are doing that, please see me after class!

In the past week, we have yet another obsession where every single guest on television is asked: Are we closer to a bottom? Let's get one thing clear on this notion as well: There is no one who knows when we will be at the low. Oh some of us -- and, yes, I am very much in that group -- will call for a low, but the low?

And perhaps I have missed what exactly the media's definition of a bottom is. I can be sure it is different than mine. My definition is after bases are built, after there is enough support that has been tested and retested to make us feel comfortable that an entire group of stocks won't crack all over again. So, the answer to that question would be -- or should be -- ask me in a few months.

Now that I have finished that rant, let me note that breadth was positive on the day while the indexes faltered. Is this the start of a trend? I do not know. What I know is that individual stocks are responding to the oversold condition.

Keep in mind last year, while breadth was creeping ever lower, the indexes were held up by a handful of stocks. Now we have some stocks holding while the indexes are being pushed lower by the index moving stocks.

In the meantime let's talk about the US Dollar which has really come off the boil in the last few days and no one seems to be fussing over it. I don't think there is a big correlation to the S&P but take a look at the move in the buck since April (arrow on the chart.) That's when it took off. And that's when the S&P began this leg down.

Perhaps I am making much out of nothing but I find it interesting that on the way up, we saw lots of chatter about the strong dollar and so far none about the rollover. Let's see if it matters.

Get an email alert each time I write an article for Real Money. Click the "+Follow" next to my byline to this article.
TAGS: Investing | Stocks | Technical Analysis |

More from Stocks

You Can Invest in Micron, But Here's Why You May Want to Wait

Stephen Guilfoyle
Jul 1, 2022 10:15 AM EDT

MU reported earnings Thursday night and the guidance was shocking.

The Charts Point to More Selling Ahead for 4 Former Tech Leaders

Ed Ponsi
Jul 1, 2022 10:00 AM EDT

Keep in mind that no matter how much a stock has fallen, it can always go lower, and it appears these four stocks could prove that point.

Enanta Pharmaceuticals Bounces Off a Key Support Level Once Again

Bruce Kamich
Jul 1, 2022 9:41 AM EDT

The shares of the biotech company appear to be finding a bottom but could use more sideways action to create a better base.

CRISPR Therapeutics Has Turned the Corner

Bruce Kamich
Jul 1, 2022 8:43 AM EDT

Here's our current price target.

A Few Thoughts on How to Approach a Tougher Bear Market Than Most

Bob Byrne
Jul 1, 2022 8:30 AM EDT

A key goal is to keep from losing money while the current bear runs its course, and don't count on positive seasonality leading to the Fourth of July.

Real Money's message boards are strictly for the open exchange of investment ideas among registered users. Any discussions or subjects off that topic or that do not promote this goal will be removed at the discretion of the site's moderators. Abusive, insensitive or threatening comments will not be tolerated and will be deleted. Thank you for your cooperation. If you have questions, please contact us here.

Email

CANCEL
SUBMIT

Email sent

Thank you, your email to has been sent successfully.

DONE

Oops!

We're sorry. There was a problem trying to send your email to .
Please contact customer support to let us know.

DONE

Please Join or Log In to Email Our Authors.

Email Real Money's Wall Street Pros for further analysis and insight

Already a Subscriber? Login

Columnist Conversation

  • 07:59 PM EDT PAUL PRICE

    Very good quarterly numbers from Bassett Furniture (BSET)

    Bassett Furniture (BSET) blew right through analys...
  • 04:41 PM EDT PAUL PRICE

    First Half Results - Putrid Second Half Results - Likely to Be Much Better

    It's great that we're done with June. 2022 marked...
  • 04:51 PM EDT PAUL PRICE

    We Should Be in for Better Starting Soon

    Window dressing Thursday, the last day of the...
  • See More

COLUMNIST TWEETS

  • A Twitter List by realmoney
About Privacy Terms of Use

© 1996-2022 TheStreet, Inc., 225 Liberty Street, 27th Floor, New York, NY 10281

Need Help? Contact Customer Service

Except as otherwise indicated, quotes are delayed. Quotes delayed at least 20 minutes for all exchanges. Market Data & Company fundamental data provided by FactSet. Earnings and ratings provided by Zacks. Mutual fund data provided by Valueline. ETF data provided by Lipper. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions Group.

TheStreet Ratings updates stock ratings daily. However, if no rating change occurs, the data on this page does not update. The data does update after 90 days if no rating change occurs within that time period.

FactSet calculates the Market Cap for the basic symbol to include common shares only. Year-to-date mutual fund returns are calculated on a monthly basis by Value Line and posted mid-month.

Compare Brokers

Please Join or Log In to manage and receive alerts.

Follow Real Money's Wall Street Pros to receive real-time investing alerts

Already a Subscriber? Login